Comments on: Some Sanity http://tomgpalmer.com/2008/01/19/some-sanity/ Personal website and weblog of the libertarian thinker Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:18:49 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: George Stevens http://tomgpalmer.com/2008/01/19/some-sanity/comment-page-1/#comment-7244 George Stevens Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:59:16 +0000 http://tomgpalmer.com/?p=2090#comment-7244 The social ultra-conservatism pushed by paleos in the '90s is a poor match for the Ron Paul Revolution demographic. The evangelicals and social conservative voters go for Flip and Huck, not for Ron. Exit polls show Ron's largest support base are the 18-29s, not particularly religious, Internet-savvy independent voters. I mean, Ron really kills in that demographic. Hopefully their takeaway will be a deeper love of liberty and not more cynicism and despair. The social ultra-conservatism pushed by paleos in the ’90s is a poor match for the Ron Paul Revolution demographic. The evangelicals and social conservative voters go for Flip and Huck, not for Ron. Exit polls show Ron’s largest support base are the 18-29s, not particularly religious, Internet-savvy independent voters. I mean, Ron really kills in that demographic.

Hopefully their takeaway will be a deeper love of liberty and not more cynicism and despair.

]]> By: Pieter Cleppe http://tomgpalmer.com/2008/01/19/some-sanity/comment-page-1/#comment-7243 Pieter Cleppe Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:47:34 +0000 http://tomgpalmer.com/?p=2090#comment-7243 I guess it's all mostly a matter of strategy: the Mises Institute plays the politically incorrect card, and Cato has always been playing the politically correct card. To my esteem both strategies are honourable, although I have to admit that Ron Paul is rather being politically correct (sort of....) and achieving a lot. However he draws certain affiliations of the past with him (maybe some non-libertarian people who were in the temporary paleolibertarian - paleoconservative "alliance") and therefore it was probably a wise decision of Cato to keep him at a distance. "Belthway" Libertarians and "countryside" libertarians: maybe the debate among them may be benificially and draw attention away from our ideological anti-individualist opponents that become more and more unattractive to anyone with a sincere interest in ideological political debate. However on the short term I hope that Paul manages to overcome the racist stigma and that he manages to keep on "spoiling" the political circus with his great talk. I guess it’s all mostly a matter of strategy: the Mises Institute plays the politically incorrect card, and Cato has always been playing the politically correct card.

To my esteem both strategies are honourable, although I have to admit that Ron Paul is rather being politically correct (sort of….) and achieving a lot. However he draws certain affiliations of the past with him (maybe some non-libertarian people who were in the temporary paleolibertarian – paleoconservative “alliance”) and therefore it was probably a wise decision of Cato to keep him at a distance.

“Belthway” Libertarians and “countryside” libertarians: maybe the debate among them may be benificially and draw attention away from our ideological anti-individualist opponents that become more and more unattractive to anyone with a sincere interest in ideological political debate.

However on the short term I hope that Paul manages to overcome the racist stigma and that he manages to keep on “spoiling” the political circus with his great talk.

]]> By: Benjamin http://tomgpalmer.com/2008/01/19/some-sanity/comment-page-1/#comment-7242 Benjamin Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:44:53 +0000 http://tomgpalmer.com/?p=2090#comment-7242 I strongly support Dr. Paul, despite what happened a long time ago when I was a kid. I think he has a lot to say that is important about where our country is going. The Iraq war is getting us deeper and deeper into the Middle East's problems and the economy is being burdened by inflation and too much spending. I think you agree, but are upset about Dr. Paul's past misjudgements. I found this through the Ron Paul Forums. I apologize for the really bad treatment that some people have shown you there. I think your work for human rights is important and I hope that you will come over to become an enthusiastic backer of Dr. Paul. He is an important voice for people of my generation and I hope that you will support his bid for the presidency. The hatred that some persons have shown should in no way affect your support for Dr. Paul's real issues, peace, freedom, sound money, and and end to the domination by special interests. I strongly support Dr. Paul, despite what happened a long time ago when I was a kid. I think he has a lot to say that is important about where our country is going. The Iraq war is getting us deeper and deeper into the Middle East’s problems and the economy is being burdened by inflation and too much spending. I think you agree, but are upset about Dr. Paul’s past misjudgements.

I found this through the Ron Paul Forums. I apologize for the really bad treatment that some people have shown you there. I think your work for human rights is important and I hope that you will come over to become an enthusiastic backer of Dr. Paul. He is an important voice for people of my generation and I hope that you will support his bid for the presidency. The hatred that some persons have shown should in no way affect your support for Dr. Paul’s real issues, peace, freedom, sound money, and and end to the domination by special interests.

]]> By: Not a Shrink http://tomgpalmer.com/2008/01/19/some-sanity/comment-page-1/#comment-7241 Not a Shrink Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:46:29 +0000 http://tomgpalmer.com/?p=2090#comment-7241 That DiLorenzo fellow seems....a little troubled. That DiLorenzo fellow seems….a little troubled.

]]> By: Comic Relief http://tomgpalmer.com/2008/01/19/some-sanity/comment-page-1/#comment-7240 Comic Relief Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:27:33 +0000 http://tomgpalmer.com/?p=2090#comment-7240 Found this entertaining movie on Andrew Sullivan's blog: <a href="http://juliansanchez.com/notes/archives/2008/01/i_have_no_words_1.php" rel="nofollow">http://juliansanchez.com/notes/archives/2008/01/i_have_no_words_1.php</a> Found this entertaining movie on Andrew Sullivan’s blog:

http://juliansanchez.com/notes.....ords_1.php

]]> By: Charles N. Steele http://tomgpalmer.com/2008/01/19/some-sanity/comment-page-1/#comment-7239 Charles N. Steele Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:01:00 +0000 http://tomgpalmer.com/?p=2090#comment-7239 I'm beside myself with glee; I've been denounced by Tom Dilorenzo at the same time he denounces Tom Palmer! I'm moving up in the world! Admittedly I was denounced primarily for allegedly identifying myself as "someone who "lives" in three states plus "the former Soviet Union." He sounds like he lives in his car and lists no place of employment)." Still, it's a start...maybe LvMI will eventually get around to addressing (or dressing me down for) my ideas & arguments. I’m beside myself with glee; I’ve been denounced by Tom Dilorenzo at the same time he denounces Tom Palmer! I’m moving up in the world!

Admittedly I was denounced primarily for allegedly identifying myself as “someone who “lives” in three states plus “the former Soviet Union.” He sounds like he lives in his car and lists no place of employment).” Still, it’s a start…maybe LvMI will eventually get around to addressing (or dressing me down for) my ideas & arguments.

]]> By: Anon http://tomgpalmer.com/2008/01/19/some-sanity/comment-page-1/#comment-7238 Anon Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:36:44 +0000 http://tomgpalmer.com/?p=2090#comment-7238 Tom, You are too gentle, as is Julian. I've read through the various attacks on you and it's like apple bobbing in a toilet. The Rockwellians really have "issues," especially DiLorenzo and DeCoster. They're also unable to quote accurately and don't seem to understand what quotation marks mean. I recommend that you continue to do as you've done and just carry out your work on behalf of freedom, which you do very well. The Ron Paul newsletter affair really blew Lew Rockwell's cover and lots of people who did not know before now know what a racist and enemy of libertarian ideology he is. And we can thank you for having alerted us to the wider context. Tom,

You are too gentle, as is Julian. I’ve read through the various attacks on you and it’s like apple bobbing in a toilet. The Rockwellians really have “issues,” especially DiLorenzo and DeCoster. They’re also unable to quote accurately and don’t seem to understand what quotation marks mean.

I recommend that you continue to do as you’ve done and just carry out your work on behalf of freedom, which you do very well. The Ron Paul newsletter affair really blew Lew Rockwell’s cover and lots of people who did not know before now know what a racist and enemy of libertarian ideology he is. And we can thank you for having alerted us to the wider context.

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