The interview mentioned below can now be heard online at WBEZ. (You’ll have to navigate to the January 7, 2003 discussion.) Listen if you want and judge for yourself. (I’m listening to it right now and, of course, thinking of all the ways I could have said what I said…more clearly, more succinctly, more elegantly, etc. But, alas, time seems to be unidirectional, so I can’t go back and change what I said.)